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	<title>Comments on: More on Firefox Critical Updates</title>
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	<description>Helping PC users make sense of Microsoft software since 1991</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Naraine</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=639&#038;cpage=1#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Naraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason many Firefox users see a delayed appearance of the red &quot;check for updates&quot; button is said to be a bandwidth conservation issue. 

I asked the Foundation about this when they last issued the 1.0.2 patch and was told they try to get people to get the patch from mozilla.org first. It can take up to a week for the patch to be shuttled to all users via &#039;check for updates&#039; to avoid server overloadl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason many Firefox users see a delayed appearance of the red &#8220;check for updates&#8221; button is said to be a bandwidth conservation issue. </p>
<p>I asked the Foundation about this when they last issued the 1.0.2 patch and was told they try to get people to get the patch from mozilla.org first. It can take up to a week for the patch to be shuttled to all users via &#8216;check for updates&#8217; to avoid server overloadl.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Bott</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=639&#038;cpage=1#comment-1353</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Bott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that news, Ryan.

I have a system running Firefox 1.0.1. The red icon is visible and I see occasional messages that tell me updates are available. But nothing screams at me that these are important security patches and that I am in danger if I don&#039;t get them.

In Windows XP SP2, IE now has Automatic Updates, in which patches are downloaded and installed automatically. Firefox has to find some way of doing the same thing. Left to their own devices, people will ignore the messages and icons. We&#039;ve seen itso many times...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that news, Ryan.</p>
<p>I have a system running Firefox 1.0.1. The red icon is visible and I see occasional messages that tell me updates are available. But nothing screams at me that these are important security patches and that I am in danger if I don&#8217;t get them.</p>
<p>In Windows XP SP2, IE now has Automatic Updates, in which patches are downloaded and installed automatically. Firefox has to find some way of doing the same thing. Left to their own devices, people will ignore the messages and icons. We&#8217;ve seen itso many times&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=639&#038;cpage=1#comment-1354</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I definitely have never seen that arrow icon. Perhaps it&#039;s because I don&#039;t have FireFox open that much (but it really shouldn&#039;t take it very long to detect an important security update). It&#039;s also possible that auto-update wasn&#039;t turned on (although I don&#039;t remember turning it off); I can&#039;t check it however because I&#039;ve since manually updated to FireFox 1.0.3.

Most likely, it seems, FireFox simply didn&#039;t have this feature in version 1.0. Does the documentation say otherwise?

I also think the Check for Updates feature should be under the Help menu, where other publishers seem to put it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I definitely have never seen that arrow icon. Perhaps it&#8217;s because I don&#8217;t have FireFox open that much (but it really shouldn&#8217;t take it very long to detect an important security update). It&#8217;s also possible that auto-update wasn&#8217;t turned on (although I don&#8217;t remember turning it off); I can&#8217;t check it however because I&#8217;ve since manually updated to FireFox 1.0.3.</p>
<p>Most likely, it seems, FireFox simply didn&#8217;t have this feature in version 1.0. Does the documentation say otherwise?</p>
<p>I also think the Check for Updates feature should be under the Help menu, where other publishers seem to put it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zaine Ridling</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=639&#038;cpage=1#comment-1355</link>
		<dc:creator>Zaine Ridling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had never noticed it before reading these two posts. It&#039;s a clever interface device, but Firefox users should know about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had never noticed it before reading these two posts. It&#8217;s a clever interface device, but Firefox users should know about it.</p>
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		<title>By: johnpro</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=639&#038;cpage=1#comment-1356</link>
		<dc:creator>johnpro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only noticed the red icon after reading this thread.

Still, seeing the thing is free,I guess we should take some responsibility to check the program features. Although my ambivilence also prefers most essential items to be automatic. 


I still think firefox is far more secure than IE ..at least for the moment.

I rarely get infected with FF,however IE tracker invasion is usually a daily cleaning chore when I have to use  IE. 

I only use IE for accuradio and live365 internet radio. Neither of these excellent services work under FF.  

I guess a patch would be nice! 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only noticed the red icon after reading this thread.</p>
<p>Still, seeing the thing is free,I guess we should take some responsibility to check the program features. Although my ambivilence also prefers most essential items to be automatic. </p>
<p>I still think firefox is far more secure than IE ..at least for the moment.</p>
<p>I rarely get infected with FF,however IE tracker invasion is usually a daily cleaning chore when I have to use  IE. </p>
<p>I only use IE for accuradio and live365 internet radio. Neither of these excellent services work under FF.  </p>
<p>I guess a patch would be nice! </p>
<p>jp</p>
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		<title>By: headmoron</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=639&#038;cpage=1#comment-1357</link>
		<dc:creator>headmoron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

What problems have you had with FF and Live365?  Under FF, I selected MusicMatch Jukebox as my player and it works just fine.

It even runs fine under Linux, using xmms as the default player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>What problems have you had with FF and Live365?  Under FF, I selected MusicMatch Jukebox as my player and it works just fine.</p>
<p>It even runs fine under Linux, using xmms as the default player.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=639&#038;cpage=1#comment-1358</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brother showed his computer science prof (and diehard Firefox fan) a CNet article about the security issues with Firefox. His prof mentioned the issues in class yesterday. With Firefox on the screen, she said, &quot;I guess they haven&#039;t made a fix for it yet, seeing how the article doesn&#039;t mention it.&quot;

My brother could see that little red arrow in the corner. He just laughed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother showed his computer science prof (and diehard Firefox fan) a CNet article about the security issues with Firefox. His prof mentioned the issues in class yesterday. With Firefox on the screen, she said, &#8220;I guess they haven&#8217;t made a fix for it yet, seeing how the article doesn&#8217;t mention it.&#8221;</p>
<p>My brother could see that little red arrow in the corner. He just laughed.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=639&#038;cpage=1#comment-1359</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is bad, I had to search Google for a reason why  &#8220;check for updates&#8221; didnīt work and I came to this page and only then noticed the incredibly small white arrow with red background.</p>
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