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		<title>By: Ed Bott</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-3/#comment-179433</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Bott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking more of this definition: &quot;one who attacks a person or a person&#039;s work with petulant or snide criticism, esp. anonymously or from a safe distance.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking more of this definition: &#8220;one who attacks a person or a person&#8217;s work with petulant or snide criticism, esp. anonymously or from a safe distance.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gwiz</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-3/#comment-179432</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;drive-by sniper&quot;?
Snipers do not perform drive by shootings, the whole point of a sniper is a gunman that positions themselves in a static position and waits for the ability to have a 1 shot kill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;drive-by sniper&#8221;?</p>
<p>Snipers do not perform drive by shootings, the whole point of a sniper is a gunman that positions themselves in a static position and waits for the ability to have a 1 shot kill.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Bott</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-3/#comment-179429</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Bott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ex, are you trying to sound like you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about? The beta is about two things: (1) allowing people outside Microsoft to evaluate a new product and (2) allowing Microsoft to get feedback and identify bugs on that product. The second goal is IMPOSSIBLE to achieve until you have delivered all of the main portions of the code. The final bug testing is about fixing small problems, of which there may be thousands.
As for your comments about my revenue stream, you sure do make a lot of assumptions about what I do for a living. You&#039;re wrong. Yes, I&#039;m in the process of writing Windows 7 Inside Out. If you were a regular visitor here rather than a drive-by sniper you would know that. But I do much more than write books these days. Regular visitors here already know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ex, are you trying to sound like you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about? The beta is about two things: (1) allowing people outside Microsoft to evaluate a new product and (2) allowing Microsoft to get feedback and identify bugs on that product. The second goal is IMPOSSIBLE to achieve until you have delivered all of the main portions of the code. The final bug testing is about fixing small problems, of which there may be thousands.</p>
<p>As for your comments about my revenue stream, you sure do make a lot of assumptions about what I do for a living. You&#8217;re wrong. Yes, I&#8217;m in the process of writing Windows 7 Inside Out. If you were a regular visitor here rather than a drive-by sniper you would know that. But I do much more than write books these days. Regular visitors here already know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179428</link>
		<dc:creator>Ex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The idea that there’s a big pile of code being held back is ridiculous.&quot;
then why not release the final product rather than having an open beta then?
I think this is simply you becoming scared of any criticisms directed at your &#039;hand that feeds&#039; Mr Botts, it is obvious that you are simply advocating a new product that will obviously provide you revenue streams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The idea that there’s a big pile of code being held back is ridiculous.&#8221;</p>
<p>then why not release the final product rather than having an open beta then?</p>
<p>I think this is simply you becoming scared of any criticisms directed at your &#8216;hand that feeds&#8217; Mr Botts, it is obvious that you are simply advocating a new product that will obviously provide you revenue streams.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Gupta</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179424</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Gupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the latest performance test carried out by Adrian at ZDNET: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3857, I think the people worrying about a lot of code being held back should be surprised. As the builds are advancing, performance is actually getting better. I agree the current build - 7057 is not near RTM or RC1 for that matter, but surely you wouldnt think that MS is stripping out more and more code with each successive build just to make it go faster? I feel stupid for even counter suggesting such a thing. And mind you, when MS publicly claimed that current generation of netbooks would be able to run all editions of Windows 7, then they were aware of the PR mistakes committed at the time of Vista, and this time they really mean it when they say that minimum system requirements are a 1GHz Processor and 1 GB RAM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the latest performance test carried out by Adrian at ZDNET: <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3857" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3857</a>, I think the people worrying about a lot of code being held back should be surprised. As the builds are advancing, performance is actually getting better. I agree the current build &#8211; 7057 is not near RTM or RC1 for that matter, but surely you wouldnt think that MS is stripping out more and more code with each successive build just to make it go faster? I feel stupid for even counter suggesting such a thing. And mind you, when MS publicly claimed that current generation of netbooks would be able to run all editions of Windows 7, then they were aware of the PR mistakes committed at the time of Vista, and this time they really mean it when they say that minimum system requirements are a 1GHz Processor and 1 GB RAM.</p>
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		<title>By: Netbook Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179412</link>
		<dc:creator>Netbook Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with SpragueD.
John Dvorak hasn&#039;t been relevant in years.  I&#039;m surprised he&#039;s still out there writing.
As for Windows 7, other than dealing with some driver issues, it&#039;s already in shape to hit the store shelves.  Microsoft has a big win coming here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with SpragueD.  </p>
<p>John Dvorak hasn&#8217;t been relevant in years.  I&#8217;m surprised he&#8217;s still out there writing.  </p>
<p>As for Windows 7, other than dealing with some driver issues, it&#8217;s already in shape to hit the store shelves.  Microsoft has a big win coming here.</p>
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		<title>By: jcd'slovechild</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179408</link>
		<dc:creator>jcd'slovechild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35 Ed, so you don&#039;t deny crying into your lattes? :) Kidding of course (and I was not referring to you for what it&#039;s worth)...I pegged you more as a drip coffee with Cremora type of guy but, hey, live and let live.
Anyway, there&#039;s much work that has been done and more to be done on Win7 before it&#039;s released so we&#039;ll see. MS needs a win with 7 after the PR faux pas with Vista (which works well for me). After all, competition is good thing and a great MS OS will kick Apple in the butt which will drive innovation for all as the wrong-headed  negative perceptions of Vista have driven MS to do something great. And yes, MS Win7 is great now and I hope it stays great...
Stilgar is right...who knows what will be released. Let&#039;s hope MS knocks this one out of the park....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 Ed, so you don&#8217;t deny crying into your lattes? <img src='http://www.edbott.com/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Kidding of course (and I was not referring to you for what it&#8217;s worth)&#8230;I pegged you more as a drip coffee with Cremora type of guy but, hey, live and let live.  </p>
<p>Anyway, there&#8217;s much work that has been done and more to be done on Win7 before it&#8217;s released so we&#8217;ll see. MS needs a win with 7 after the PR faux pas with Vista (which works well for me). After all, competition is good thing and a great MS OS will kick Apple in the butt which will drive innovation for all as the wrong-headed  negative perceptions of Vista have driven MS to do something great. And yes, MS Win7 is great now and I hope it stays great&#8230;</p>
<p>Stilgar is right&#8230;who knows what will be released. Let&#8217;s hope MS knocks this one out of the park&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgar</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179397</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a software engineer.  It&#039;s not uncommon for beta builds to have lots of code commented out because it&#039;s not stable enough for release in the beta.
Now, I don&#039;t know that MS is leaving out &quot;major security features&quot; or not in their betas, but it&#039;s not unreasonable to think that there are features left out of current beta builds.
The fact of the matter is that neither you nor Dvorak know what the final performance of Windows 7 will be like until it&#039;s on store shelves and the service packs and patches start rolling out.
Maybe it&#039;d be worth while to dig up a copy of a Vista beta and see how well the performance compares to a current, patched install of the OS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a software engineer.  It&#8217;s not uncommon for beta builds to have lots of code commented out because it&#8217;s not stable enough for release in the beta.</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t know that MS is leaving out &#8220;major security features&#8221; or not in their betas, but it&#8217;s not unreasonable to think that there are features left out of current beta builds.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that neither you nor Dvorak know what the final performance of Windows 7 will be like until it&#8217;s on store shelves and the service packs and patches start rolling out.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;d be worth while to dig up a copy of a Vista beta and see how well the performance compares to a current, patched install of the OS.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Bott</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179395</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Bott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stilgar, go back and read what Dvorak wrote and then what I wrote. JCD is claiming, with no factual backing or support, that Microsoft is &quot;pulling a fast one&quot; by leaving major security features out of its beta release, which it will then add later, causing performance slowdowns. Anyone who understands how an OS is built would know this is ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stilgar, go back and read what Dvorak wrote and then what I wrote. JCD is claiming, with no factual backing or support, that Microsoft is &#8220;pulling a fast one&#8221; by leaving major security features out of its beta release, which it will then add later, causing performance slowdowns. Anyone who understands how an OS is built would know this is ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: Stilgar</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179392</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why you think his remarks are invalid?
You think Microsoft has a good track record of performance improvements with it&#039;s patches?  All you have to do is google &quot;windows patches slow performance&quot; and there are tons of complaints about poor performance after patching.
Oh, and calling someone else&#039;s writing crude and juvenile is crude and juvenile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why you think his remarks are invalid?</p>
<p>You think Microsoft has a good track record of performance improvements with it&#8217;s patches?  All you have to do is google &#8220;windows patches slow performance&#8221; and there are tons of complaints about poor performance after patching.</p>
<p>Oh, and calling someone else&#8217;s writing crude and juvenile is crude and juvenile.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Bott</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179371</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Bott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take my lattes nonfat, thanks, and I make &#039;em myself. I&#039;m not &quot;offended at his pointed writing style&quot; but rather disappointed by an obvious factual error from someone who should know much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take my lattes nonfat, thanks, and I make &#8216;em myself. I&#8217;m not &#8220;offended at his pointed writing style&#8221; but rather disappointed by an obvious factual error from someone who should know much better.</p>
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		<title>By: jcd'slovechild</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179370</link>
		<dc:creator>jcd'slovechild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dvorak says something outrageous that irritates the shills and fanbois (whether they shill for Apple or Microsoft). WOW, that&#039;s a shocker! He&#039;s an entertaining blowhard who&#039;s more right about tech trends than some would like to admit.
If you&#039;re so sensitive as to get offended at his pointed writing style, stop reading his stuff and try not to cry into your soy latte.
On a more positive note, Microsoft was brilliant to release the beta. Leo Laporte (a huge Mac fan) LOVES Windows 7 and has nothing but praise for it. Who knows? Maybe it&#039;ll convert a few Macheads...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dvorak says something outrageous that irritates the shills and fanbois (whether they shill for Apple or Microsoft). WOW, that&#8217;s a shocker! He&#8217;s an entertaining blowhard who&#8217;s more right about tech trends than some would like to admit. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re so sensitive as to get offended at his pointed writing style, stop reading his stuff and try not to cry into your soy latte.</p>
<p>On a more positive note, Microsoft was brilliant to release the beta. Leo Laporte (a huge Mac fan) LOVES Windows 7 and has nothing but praise for it. Who knows? Maybe it&#8217;ll convert a few Macheads&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sprague D</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179368</link>
		<dc:creator>Sprague D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one takes Dvorak seriously.
He hasn&#039;t been relevant since PC Magazine was a must-read...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one takes Dvorak seriously.</p>
<p>He hasn&#8217;t been relevant since PC Magazine was a must-read&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dstarfire</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179366</link>
		<dc:creator>dstarfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dvorak may be wrong (or whatever more-colorful phrase you prefer). But at least he&#039;s almost always interesting and original. His blogs read like a magazine/newspaper column than, rather than a glorified forum posting.
And Hylen&#039;s link (if you follow it the actual content) kind of puts his rants in perspective. Basically, they&#039;re saying his outrageous comments are just another marketing ploy, just like that a teen with 50 piercings and neon green hair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dvorak may be wrong (or whatever more-colorful phrase you prefer). But at least he&#8217;s almost always interesting and original. His blogs read like a magazine/newspaper column than, rather than a glorified forum posting. </p>
<p>And Hylen&#8217;s link (if you follow it the actual content) kind of puts his rants in perspective. Basically, they&#8217;re saying his outrageous comments are just another marketing ploy, just like that a teen with 50 piercings and neon green hair.</p>
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		<title>By: KS</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2009/03/dvorak-jumps-the-shark-again/comment-page-2/#comment-179364</link>
		<dc:creator>KS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the security feature we see in Windows 7 is already built in Windows Vista. Although their saying security is much better in Windows 7. Could someone please explain why Windows 7 security is much better than Windows Vista when their almost identical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the security feature we see in Windows 7 is already built in Windows Vista. Although their saying security is much better in Windows 7. Could someone please explain why Windows 7 security is much better than Windows Vista when their almost identical.</p>
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