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		<title>By: Redface</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2007/08/the-quad-core-payoff/comment-page-2/#comment-177580</link>
		<dc:creator>Redface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoulda gone with an Nvidia.  Much more industry-friendly.  From my perspective, and that involves a bit of stereoscopic 3d gaming (aka - standard gaming format of the future) ATI has dropped the ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoulda gone with an Nvidia.  Much more industry-friendly.  From my perspective, and that involves a bit of stereoscopic 3d gaming (aka &#8211; standard gaming format of the future) ATI has dropped the ball.</p>
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		<title>By: Toin Bach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toin Bach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see an answer to Svenkpoijken&#039;s question regarding onlyt two processors visible in XP.  Which is a pity, &#039;cos I have the same problem.
But I can only get XP to run if I disable the quad core (ie revert to dual core) and also if I disable the SATA RAID controller.
I&#039;ve tried installing the RAID driver but that says it can&#039;t be installed &#039;cos the feature doesn&#039;t exist and I can&#039;t get XP to run if I enable RAID in the BIOS.
I&#039;ve yet to find a driver to cover my quad core (6600) problem
Anyone any ideas?
I&#039;m running XP Pro SP3 on a Dell XPS 420 with 4GB RAM and 2 500 GB (non-RAID) Seagate HDDs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see an answer to Svenkpoijken&#8217;s question regarding onlyt two processors visible in XP.  Which is a pity, &#8216;cos I have the same problem.<br />
But I can only get XP to run if I disable the quad core (ie revert to dual core) and also if I disable the SATA RAID controller.<br />
I&#8217;ve tried installing the RAID driver but that says it can&#8217;t be installed &#8216;cos the feature doesn&#8217;t exist and I can&#8217;t get XP to run if I enable RAID in the BIOS.<br />
I&#8217;ve yet to find a driver to cover my quad core (6600) problem</p>
<p>Anyone any ideas?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m running XP Pro SP3 on a Dell XPS 420 with 4GB RAM and 2 500 GB (non-RAID) Seagate HDDs</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2007/08/the-quad-core-payoff/comment-page-2/#comment-158118</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,
How quiet is the 512MB ATI Radeon HD2600XT?
As I said in one of my comments above, I&#039;m using the ATI Radeon 1650 PRO in my HTPC.  The fan on this thing is loud enough to be heard over the television.
Any thoughts on a higher-end video card with a fanless design?
Thank you.
Aaron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>How quiet is the 512MB ATI Radeon HD2600XT?  </p>
<p>As I said in one of my comments above, I&#8217;m using the ATI Radeon 1650 PRO in my HTPC.  The fan on this thing is loud enough to be heard over the television.</p>
<p>Any thoughts on a higher-end video card with a fanless design?</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>Aaron</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Bott</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2007/08/the-quad-core-payoff/comment-page-2/#comment-157896</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Bott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;sodo,
VMWare allows you to specify one or two processors for a VM, so no, it won&#039;t use all four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;sodo,</p>
<p>VMWare allows you to specify one or two processors for a VM, so no, it won&#8217;t use all four.</p>
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		<title>By: Cacasodo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cacasodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ed,
Good post.  I was thinking about getting a Dell 1430 dual quad core as a home workstation.  But I&#039;d use Fedora as my primary OS.  I know that you&#039;re running Ubuntu under VM on your system.  I was wondering how many CPUs does VMware Workstation allow you to see?  All four or only two?
Looking forward to your ZDNet post.
&#039;sodo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ed,<br />
Good post.  I was thinking about getting a Dell 1430 dual quad core as a home workstation.  But I&#8217;d use Fedora as my primary OS.  I know that you&#8217;re running Ubuntu under VM on your system.  I was wondering how many CPUs does VMware Workstation allow you to see?  All four or only two?</p>
<p>Looking forward to your ZDNet post.<br />
&#8216;sodo</p>
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		<title>By: Svenskpojken</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2007/08/the-quad-core-payoff/comment-page-1/#comment-157750</link>
		<dc:creator>Svenskpojken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question for Cyberdude:
I&#039;ve just build a Quad Core 6600 system with Windows XP Pro, SP2, and it&#039;s flying.  However, I can&#039;t recognize more than 2 CPU&#039;s in Task Manager.  Would you or anyone else in the group know if I am supposed to be able to see all 4 in task manager? or is XP&#039;s limit 2 Processors?
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question for Cyberdude:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just build a Quad Core 6600 system with Windows XP Pro, SP2, and it&#8217;s flying.  However, I can&#8217;t recognize more than 2 CPU&#8217;s in Task Manager.  Would you or anyone else in the group know if I am supposed to be able to see all 4 in task manager? or is XP&#8217;s limit 2 Processors?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Bott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Bott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iVan,
Try it with a library of 6500 photos. There&#039;s a genuine performance difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iVan,</p>
<p>Try it with a library of 6500 photos. There&#8217;s a genuine performance difference.</p>
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		<title>By: iVan</title>
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		<dc:creator>iVan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was funny to hear from you that a window full of thumbnails draws &quot;instantly&quot;. (strong emphasis on your italics) hihi... i just wanna say, Vista does cache your thumbnails to disk. (period) once rendered vista draws that &quot;instantly&quot; --yes even on my Sempron 3000+ PC. =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was funny to hear from you that a window full of thumbnails draws &#8220;instantly&#8221;. (strong emphasis on your italics) hihi&#8230; i just wanna say, Vista does cache your thumbnails to disk. (period) once rendered vista draws that &#8220;instantly&#8221; &#8211;yes even on my Sempron 3000+ PC. =P</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turned out I didn&#039;t install both ATI Radeon drivers.  I also needed something called &#039;Avivio&#039; installed.
I posted a comment on The Green Button about 6:30 this morning.  By 8:00 am more than 15 people had read my post and one of them had the solution.   If only everything was this easy.
Aaron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turned out I didn&#8217;t install both ATI Radeon drivers.  I also needed something called &#8216;Avivio&#8217; installed.</p>
<p>I posted a comment on The Green Button about 6:30 this morning.  By 8:00 am more than 15 people had read my post and one of them had the solution.   If only everything was this easy.</p>
<p>Aaron</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Bott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Bott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t tried XP on this box, Cypherdude, so I can&#039;t answer any of those questions. Maybe someone else who has read this can. You might also check some of the reviews I pointed to earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t tried XP on this box, Cypherdude, so I can&#8217;t answer any of those questions. Maybe someone else who has read this can. You might also check some of the reviews I pointed to earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: Cypherdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cypherdude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I purchased Windows XP Pro SP2 last year but I didn&#039;t use it.  Lately, I&#039;ve been reading Intel Quad Core 2 Q6600 reviews and about its recent price drop.  Compared to Vista, what would the performance be if I used XP Pro SP2 instead?  I&#039;ve read a number of Q6600 reviews and the testers all seem to use XP Pro SP2.  Vista has a new feature for quad cores called &quot;load balancing.&quot;  How much of a difference would it make if I used XP without this feature?
I will be running 2 CPU intensive business apps and a special permanent memory resident disk program.  If I bought the Q6600, in XP if possible, I would manually assign the last 3 cores to these tasks.  I would leave the first core for regular system usage and other apps.  Would this setup work in XP and would there be any performance difference compared to Vista?  I do not want to buy a whole new set of software again.
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased Windows XP Pro SP2 last year but I didn&#8217;t use it.  Lately, I&#8217;ve been reading Intel Quad Core 2 Q6600 reviews and about its recent price drop.  Compared to Vista, what would the performance be if I used XP Pro SP2 instead?  I&#8217;ve read a number of Q6600 reviews and the testers all seem to use XP Pro SP2.  Vista has a new feature for quad cores called &#8220;load balancing.&#8221;  How much of a difference would it make if I used XP without this feature?</p>
<p>I will be running 2 CPU intensive business apps and a special permanent memory resident disk program.  If I bought the Q6600, in XP if possible, I would manually assign the last 3 cores to these tasks.  I would leave the first core for regular system usage and other apps.  Would this setup work in XP and would there be any performance difference compared to Vista?  I do not want to buy a whole new set of software again.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Bott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Bott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, have you installed the latest ATI drivers and then  rerun the WEI test? With that card you should get killer scores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, have you installed the latest ATI drivers and then  rerun the WEI test? With that card you should get killer scores.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2007/08/the-quad-core-payoff/comment-page-1/#comment-157658</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m running the same processor with 2gb of RAM in Vista x32, per your recommendation a week or so ago.   My WEI is 1.0 based on the score of 1.0 for the &#039;Graphics&#039; category and the &#039;Gaming Graphics&#039; category.  I&#039;m running the ATI Radeon 1650 PRO.  Vista AERO is working.
Right now, I&#039;m on an old LCD monitor to test the system out before I put the machine in my living room.  Resolution is set at 1024x768.
Any thoughts?  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m running the same processor with 2gb of RAM in Vista x32, per your recommendation a week or so ago.   My WEI is 1.0 based on the score of 1.0 for the &#8216;Graphics&#8217; category and the &#8216;Gaming Graphics&#8217; category.  I&#8217;m running the ATI Radeon 1650 PRO.  Vista AERO is working.</p>
<p>Right now, I&#8217;m on an old LCD monitor to test the system out before I put the machine in my living room.  Resolution is set at 1024&#215;768.</p>
<p>Any thoughts?  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you run any x64 guest OSs within your VM on that dimension 9200, such as a VM machine of XP x64 or Vista x64?  I&#039;m curious if that machine&#039;s BIOS supports Intel VM (the processor certainly does).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you run any x64 guest OSs within your VM on that dimension 9200, such as a VM machine of XP x64 or Vista x64?  I&#8217;m curious if that machine&#8217;s BIOS supports Intel VM (the processor certainly does).</p>
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		<title>By: Navdeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also got the same PC. Question for you: were you concerned with the 375W PSU when you upgraded the HardDrive and Video card? or did you replace the PSU also?
Btw; i love how quiet the PC is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also got the same PC. Question for you: were you concerned with the 375W PSU when you upgraded the HardDrive and Video card? or did you replace the PSU also?</p>
<p>Btw; i love how quiet the PC is.</p>
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